Comments on: Messianic Jews: Are they Jewish?

By: A reply to some of the emails from Messianic Jews received… « Musings of an Orthodox Jew

Tue, 03 Feb 2009 10:55:16 +0000

[...] One of the main attacks they tend to base there defense of “Messianic Jews remain Jewish, regardless of there later actions. Heres a simple reply to that- we do not deny that. However, we say that they are OUTSIDE the community- for the practical ramifications of this see my earlier post on this [...]

By: marcl1969

marcl1969 — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:00:16 +0000

The bottom line is as I stated in my post: Any person believing in Jesus is a Christian. Any person that was born Jewish and starts to follow Jesus becomes a Christian and is no longer a member of the Jewish community until such time as they repent and return to Judaism.

As for Jesus- he was not a Rabbi, he was not a prophet- as far as we are concerned he is completely irrelevant and there is nothing to learn from him. Nor was he a particularly observant Jews- the Christian scriptures themselves have stories of how he broke the halachah- one such example was when he told his disciples to pick and eat barley on the shabbos. (harvesting and then removing the barley seed from its husk are both activities forbidden on Shabbos!)

In the end, Jesus is irrelevant to Jews- he is not a Rabbi, prophet or anything else for us- just another false Messiah.

By: duvy001

duvy001 — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:21:10 +0000

It’s been mentioned in the comments as “traitor”.
Say the Jew believes JC to be considered as Mashiach, like some Chabadniks consider their Rebbe to have the potential. What’s the difference then?

I understand Christian groups take him to be divine and 1/3 part of their divinity, but what if the Jew didn’t believe in his divinity. Rather, just followed his teachings like any other Jew follows their rabbis teachings?